On this episode of the Riton Podcast, host Brady Speth talks with Dave Castro, the Director of the CrossFit Games. Listen as we talk about his military training, and of course, his path that led him to be the face of the CrossFit Games.
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Brady Speth 0:08
Welcome, everybody to the Riton podcast. Couple special guests today. We got Jerimiah in studio, we got him in the hot seat today. Thanks for hanging out, being kind of a co host for me. Special guest on the other end of the video here we got Dave Castro, Director of the CrossFit Games. Super excited to have you on Dave, welcome to the random podcast.
Dave Castro 0:28
Thanks a lot for having me. Excited to chat with you guys.
Brady Speth 0:33
The so we’re kind of going into this a little bit, I think the best place to start let’s, I’m gonna put you on the hot seat a little bit. Why don’t you tell us kind of your background, your bio for anybody not familiar? And then we’ll kind of take it from there.
Dave Castro 0:47
Yes, so I’m 43 years old. And I’ve had two large phases of my life at this point. One was my military phase. And the most recent is this CrossFit phase where I’ve worked for CrossFit now for about 15 years. But after high school, I decided I wanted to see if I had what it takes to be a navy seal. So I dropped out of college, I was only in college for a couple months, and enlisted in the Navy and went off to boot camp in Great Lakes for us and then a school to vocational school for the Navy if I didn’t make it through buds and then from there buds. And fortunately, I was able to make it through in one push didn’t have any injuries or didn’t have any performance issues. And then from that point on, really young in my career and young in my life, I was assigned to seal team four on the East Coast, and stayed on the East Coast for eight or nine years. eventually came back West, and was a Buds instructor for three years and at 12 years, 12 and a half years, then I got out to pursue CrossFit full time, there was a phase there from from basically my nine year mark to my 12 year mark or maybe 10 years 12 where I was at Buds and working full time for CrossFit. And something had to go because it couldn’t be it was reenlist and CrossFit. As much as I love my job in the Navy and would have easily done 20, CrossFit provided much better for my family and my my longevity, let’s say I set out to work for CrossFit. And I say that
Jerimiah Alexander 2:29
the higher life expectancy in CrossFit.
Dave Castro 2:32
Yeah. People would say would tell me all the time, hey, you did 12 years, we’re so close to retirement, why didn’t you just do eight more years and retire at 20? And I tell people like hey, eight more years, in my line of work is like three lifetimes. So like, overseas, we’re still deploying a lot. And it’s a really risky job, obviously. And so to get out at 12 years for me wasn’t too much of a question. Because the CrossFit opportunity was so was so big and growing. And it was growing into something even to a place where I didn’t expect it to grow to as large as it is now.
Brady Speth 3:16
What kind of let’s let’s dig into the military side a little bit. We were kind of talking before we started a little bit about my military side. Was it always the Navy? Is that the direction you always wanted to go? Or was that? How did you go that way? I’m an Air Force guy. So I gotta ask.
Dave Castro 3:32
It’s funny because like, So growing up, I grew up on the 65 acre ranch and I’m actually at right now, it’s a home for the first three CrossFit Games. And it’s uh, you know, I was very into the outdoors. I shot guns here, I hiked around as in the GI Joe as a kid, but I was never really as a kid on this quest to be in the military or to, to enlist or to go into any special forces. But essentially, right after high school, I graduated in ’96. I went to the movies with my girlfriend at the time, and we watched The Rock, with Sean Connery and Nicolas Cage is a classic, classic movie. You guys seen it when you were younger. And in the movie, the the Marines takeover Alcatraz and to get the island back, they call him the baddest Special Forces in the military. And these guys fly in a helicopter, they get off, they go to the briefing room and they’re in all black. And they introduce him as Navy Seals. I’m like, wow, these guys are pretty cool. And then they go into the island in these underwater submarines and they come out the water their MP5s and I just like blown away how cool it all was and how badass these guys were. The funny part is though, they end up going into the fucking sewer and coming out.
Brady Speth 4:49
Right We know that
Dave Castro 4:50
And getting destroyed by the Marines, the Marines kill them all. Anyways, I was intrigued by that and I thought it was really cool. So after I left the movie, I then started watching all these all the existing movies at the time reading all the books, the marcinko books and anything that was out, I started consuming all the content on Navy Seals. And one of the things that kept reoccurring themes that kept coming back was that how difficult their training was and how it was, you know, viewed as the most difficult training in the military. And I wondered if I could do that this little seed was planted, planted in my head, do I have what it takes to do that? Because so for me in high school, I wasn’t a stellar athlete by any stretch of the imagination. I was on the football team. And that’s saying a lot. I never really started any game started one once. I tried out the basketball team, I wasn’t picked. And so I had a very lackluster athletic career in high school, but I was really into pushing myself and, and trying new things. And then so for me, as out of high school, diving into this having this thought of Do I have what it takes, that started lingering in my mind, and my parents didn’t want me to enlist. They wanted me to finish school. Nobody, my family really had enlisted. So I decided, if I had this thought, if I didn’t drop out now and enlist in the military, I might not ever enlist in the Navy, or enlist in the military. I might go four years in college in my life and go in a different direction. And I didn’t want to be sitting around at 30 years old, 40 years old thinking to myself, I wonder what would have happened if I would have followed that dream. You know, I when I was when I was 19 I wanted to be a seal but I never chased it. So I said I gotta do it. Gotta do it now. And so I dropped out of college. And I enlisted to the Navy and and just went after it.
Brady Speth 6:39
I love it. You know what’s crazy, is you were telling that story about The Rock. I literally had a force recon buddy of mine that was on the podcast a while back, and literally just told me the exact same story that you did, and that’s why he joined. Are you shitting me dude? Like, Oh, my God, what you were saying that I was like, Oh, I can’t wait to tell him. That’s hilarious. Ed Harris and Sean Connery probably
Dave Castro 7:02
tell that story as like to join the force. It makes sense because they killed it.
Brady Speth 7:07
Right? Yeah. He was like, I didn’t want to be a seal, there the ones that got shot up in the shower. And I was like, seriously, how many people can Sean Connery and Ed Harris recruit? That’s hilarious. Dude. I love hearing that. That’s pretty cool. I like that story.
Dave Castro 7:24
What’s funny about that story in perspective, too, like a lot of the other seals you meet or guys have known, like, I wanted to be a seal since I was five years old. And you know, like, it was my lifelong dream. And I hear a lot of that and like, I have nothing like that for me yet. I’m like, I saw it in a movie. I was like, that’s cool. Let me let me I have what it takes.
Brady Speth 7:44
Jerimiah Alexander 7:47
First round going through isn’t like super duper common either isn’t like it usually takes guys a couple times. Yeah.
Dave Castro 7:55
You know what I learned it eventually when I got to the teams is there’s actually a lot of people too there’s a good number, you’d be surprised at how many seals are seals, who at one point quit and then came back and went through a second time. I was surprised by the number of seals that were around that quit before but you had to make it through and one push is a it’s not that common, there’s so many challenges and I was by no means stellar like standout. I was just middle of the road on most things on swimming, actually, I was towards the bottom of the pack. But I was able to squeak by I was lucky not to get injured because injuries is one of the big reasons why people get rolled back. I just stayed under the radar and just did what I needed to do and was able to make it through in one, one go.
Brady Speth 8:44
You know what I love about and you’re kind of saying kind of tagging along with what you’re saying, right? There’s most of the seals or special forces guys or anybody I know. They’re not the big chest pumping bravado, guys, it’s exactly what you just said, I think there’s actually something for that in business or something that in life is it’s the guys that are successful are the ones that are just good at everything. You’re not a standout of this, you’re not you’re just you get by and you put in the work, you know, because I think there’s something about that that was a commonality for sure.
Dave Castro 9:12
That takes me to another point if you don’t mind me sharing a something that that I’ve learned and gone through in regard to being a Seal. So when I started working for CrossFit, I had been through basically the pinnacle of what I could achieve in the in the Seal teams. And so I had done a lot seen a lot multiple deployments Afghanistan into Iraq. And now I started coming around is the civilian community as still a very accomplished military member. And I then had to I don’t want to say reinvent myself, but I had to check my ego. And I don’t think a lot of guys do that. And what I mean by that is, so I went into the civilian atmosphere and not looking for a job I eventually got a job but just trying to help out and add value but I put my ego aside. So I understand myself, like, hey, I’ve accomplished a lot, I’m a Seal. And that’s put my foot in the door that’s open the door to get me close to the leadership here. But now what I do with that is the significant part. And at that point, you know, I’ve seen there’s other guys around at the time other Seals who were coming around CrossFit at the time, who kind of just leaned too hard on the well i’m a Seal. So I’m entitled to this retitled for that I went at it with a totally different perspective, I thought, or I just had the mindset of, okay, the Seal part got me in the door. But now I have to prove myself in this new environment as a new individual shooting, and all the CQC and all the things you learned, none of that mattered to this. Leadership and skill set and organization aspect that I could transfer over that I can carry over. But I had to show why that was valuable. More importantly, I had to show why I could add value to the organization. And so I think a lot of guys, in military, not just Special Forces, but all sectors of military, they transition to the civilian arena, and they try to lean too heavily on that. And my biggest, my biggest advice is no, you got to reinvent yourself, use it again to open the doors, but then prove yourself and adapt to your scenario and grow and provide value to your new team. Beyond just your past. And I think you know, I’m gonna keep ranting a little, you see a lot of guys. You see a lot of military guys and and Seals, specifically in this day and age, who are just stuck in the past. And, and social media has provided an amazing platform for you to just be stuck in the past and live off of that previous identity. And I was talking to a friend today. And he’s like, Hey, I googled this list of the Top 20 most famous Navy SEAL. And he’s like, and your name is not on there. And I’m like, that’s awesome. And that’s this. That’s exactly what I was looking for. Because in CrossFit, I talk way more about it now than I have in years past, but I didn’t want my identity to be tied to being a Navy Seal. So I wanted my identity to be independent of that. And I wanted to stand in isolation of that. I didn’t need it to be my anchor and crutch. And I’m like, so that I’m not on a list of the 20 most famous Navy Seal in the world. That’s perfect for me. I’m proud of it. Because that’s not my identity anymore.
Brady Speth 12:24
It means you’ve switched wholey to that next phase, which is a good thing.
Jerimiah Alexander 12:27
Yeah. Reminds me of that, you know, the hoist, Gracie saying? It says my black belt covers two inches of my ass. it’s up to me to cover the rest. Yeah, that’s what I heard when you were saying he’s like, I got my foot in the door. But apparently, I still have to work and do things and like pull my own weight. You know?
Dave Castro 12:45
Like, a lot of people. Yeah, absolutely.
Brady Speth 12:48
We do sell a lot of like veteran owned companies and stuff like that me being like, Riton being one of them. from my past, I’ve worked with a lot of other veteran owned companies. And it’s kind of interesting, because while you’re talking about that, I was kind of laughing to myself, because a lot of the guys are like, what what’s going to help that customer buy your product? Well, i’m veteran owned. No, that gets them to look at your product, like you said, it maybe gets a foot in the door of a dealer, but it doesn’t make your product better
Jerimiah Alexander 13:13
still have make a good product?
Brady Speth 13:15
it so a lot of people like you said it kind of stuck in that like yes, then all due respect to everybody that served our country. And we owe a huge gratitude for that. But at the same token, that’s something we did, we chose to do that we shouldn’t get, it doesn’t get you anything because you did that. It’s a kudos to that was a past part of my life. But now this is my new life. And I have to prove myself again, in each new phase, you got to go prove yourself again, it may get your foot in the door, it may help out that way. But they don’t care what I did when I was in the military, let’s be honest, you know, it doesn’t help me close a business deal because I was a good air traffic controller in the military. You know, it doesn’t, doesn’t work that way.
Dave Castro 13:53
And then to even unwind this topic a little further in regards to like my career path and what I did as a Seal. Like I struggle with a lot of these guys now who are really vocal with the books and with the everything they’re doing now in regards to being Seals because there was a definite silent professional ethos that we were brought up with. And like, to me that means a lot and I respect it, and I cherish it to this day. And I feel like For others, it just kind of got tossed out the window and people decided to capitalize on that to a fault to what I see as to a fault. There’s some of these guys got across lines where there’s little respect to what we did or the ethos we believed in. And it’s just kind of just disheartening to be so in so in my perspective, as a I’ll say famous in my community, as a famous Seal. I try to really respect that silent ethos and not lean on it, not capitalize on it you if you go to my Instagram account, I have never posted a photo from the Seal teams are never told the story. I’ve never done anything like that because there’s the nice line. And interestingly, because of that, like, some of the communities and teams I’ve been on, they, they still understand and respect that. And I’m invited back to reunions, and I keep in contact with the guys, because I am very aware of that line.
Brady Speth 15:17
I like that. So let’s, uh, I won’t pry into that, that side of your life, then by any means. So let’s, let’s go to the next phase. So how you’re in San Diego right here instructing at buds? How does, How do you get introduced to CrossFit? What’s kind of the genesis of that then kind of digging?
Jerimiah Alexander 15:35
It’s Buds the original CrossFit?
Brady Speth 15:36
Dave Castro 15:38
Yeah, so I’ll back up a little bit. I was actually on the East Coast SEAL team, we were doing combat missions to Afghanistan. And when we were doing those missions, we would insert with a land feature in between us in the target, usually a mountain range, and we’d hike over and then we hit the target. And so on these targets, I was becoming gassed, and winded, and I wanted a better training protocol, and at this point, I have been in the seal teams for seven or maybe six or seven years. And we were very into physical training and conditioning and you know, viewed as some of the most fit people in the military. But I felt like what I was doing wasn’t preparing me well enough. And so I was big into rock climbing and mountaineering. So I did a lot because I followed a lot of what those guys did. So in that scene, they did a lot of endurance training. So I ran a lot. I did some weightlifting, but but very little, I did a lot of pull ups and push ups. And when I was feeling gas on target, I decided okay, maybe I’ll just do more running more long distance training will help me prepare, give me better gas. It wasn’t translating into that. So I went on a climbing trip to Yosemite with some world class climbers, people I looked up to one of them’s name is Mark T wight. He’s really famous in the climbing world. And on that trip, he had actually written a book on training on physical training called extreme optimism. And in that book, he talked a lot about LSD, long, slow distance training. And so I tried to pick his brain about that. And he goes, I don’t do that anymore. What do you mean? Because I do something called CrossFit. We go, what’s that? He goes, it’s founded by this guy named Greg Glassman. He lives in Santa Cruz, California. And it’s deadlifts and push ups and pull ups and sprints, and it’s always high intensity short workouts. Well, I looked at Mark, so you look at me, and I’m not a big guy. I’m especially amoung Seals, I’m kind of unimposing well marks even smaller than I am. So I looked at him and I’m like, this guy told me about this CrossFit. I’m like, I don’t buy it. Like, he doesn’t have the, he’s too lean. He’s too small, I can’t be effective. And so I kind of, I kind of wrote it off. But in the back of my mind, it was still there. So I went home from that trip, I started going to the website, started researching it started reading the journals, that’s actually kind of you look back to what I told you about in the beginning, it’s kind of a common theme of mine, when I get into something I really like studying and research it. So I started doing that with CrossFit. And still didn’t try it out because I was intimidated to be honest with you. You know, so that timeframe 2002 to 2003. Actually, this is more like five and six there guys in the military, at least in our line of work. There was not a lot of people doing clean and jerks. There’s not a lot of people snatching. There’s not a lot of deadlifting it was mostly body building style training and machines. Some guys were back squatting, but not a lot of people were doing that stuff. And CrossFit had all of those movements. And I had no idea how to do any of. This is kind of intimidating. I don’t know if it’s for me. I actually went on a deployment to Afghanistan. But I was intrigued by it. But I was very intrigued by the the concept of it. And while we were in our little internet area on deployment, I was on the computer, and another guy from my team sat next to me and he was known for being really fit and in training. And he looks at my computer, he goes, What are you looking at? And I’m like, Oh, this is CrossFit. It’s this high intensity training methodology. He’s like, oh, man, that looks really cool. He’s like, what do you think about like, I think it’s great. You should try it out. He’s like, yeah, I’m gonna do that. So he starts training CrossFit while we’re on deployment, having no idea I’m not even doing it. And I’m paying attention to him and listening to his feedback. And he falls in love with it and tells me all about it, and how great it is and how fit he’s getting. So we come back from that deployment. Our deployments were really quick. There were three months because we had a high op tempo. So we, we didn’t we didn’t stay out there for a really long time. So we came back and I ended up breaking my leg on a training mission, not a bad break, but it slowed my my desire to get into CrossFit. Once that healed up. I did another deployment to Iraq. And on that deployment on day one, I said, Alright, I’m gonna start CrossFit and stick with it throughout this deployment. So I started CrossFit and did it throughout the deployment and I felt I started getting stronger. I started getting fitter. I felt way better on, on target, and on missions, and I got guys into it with me. And so that was my first exposure to CrossFit. I ended up coming back from that deployment and getting transferred to Monterey, the Defense Language Institute, and while there. I knew that CrossFit HQ the headquarters was based in Santa Cruz, Santa Monterrey is here, Santa Cruz is here in about 30 minutes, 40 minutes away. So I said, Alright, I’m gonna start driving over there and just like learn from the original people, while on the first one of the first outings that went over there. I told them I was in the Navy. So I met Greg Glassman, who is the founder. And he’s super and still is to this day, but super appreciative and all LEO and so guys like me, he would let work out for free, and he kind of just would bring you in a little closer. And that’s that phase where, so I started hanging out, they asked me to help out at a seminar. And that’s what I talked about, you know, at that point, putting aside what I had done, and saying, alright, I need to start over here proving value. And it just kind of I grew a relationship with the staff and Greg and all the other CrossFit trainers started growing. And I started helping out more and more at seminars. And one thing, another piece that really helped me in that stage is I never said no to anything. And they started teaching all these courses and started ramping up. And no matter what they asked me to do in terms of either work or going to events, I was always all in. And very quickly because of that. And because I was able to prove to show value quickly, I started climbing up the ranks, but I started climbing up with responsibility, getting more and more responsibility and, and my role grew and grew and coronated essentially last year, I ended up be the CEO of CrossFit after Greg gotten a lot of trouble for a really short period. And then they sold, we sold the company recently, and a new new ownership took the company over and kept me along, but not a CEO, but a very senior figure in the company. So it’s been a wild ride so that when I went in and met them, the piece I was just talking about that was in 2006, so long time ago, and then yeah, I ended up getting stationed at Buds. And so for three years, I was a Buds instructor and working full time for CrossFit. And because a Buds instructor, it was a fixed schedule and, and very predictable, I was able to do both. And then a decision point came where I had to make a choice of staying in. If I stayed in I would have had to have gone back to a Seal team and been operational, or get out and work full time for CrossFit. So I chose to get out.
Brady Speth 22:49
I think you’ve made the right decision.
Jerimiah Alexander 22:51
I love this as a couple of Navy SEALs in Iraq that are sitting around, they’re like, we should work out more. This isn’t hard enough yet. That’s amazing. Like, the mindset there.
Brady Speth 23:02
My favorite part two of that is you were pissed at yourself for not being in good enough shape, while you’re hiking mountains in the Hindu Kush, with probably 100lbs hanging, wondering how you could get in better shape. So I love it. Man, I’d love the drive behind that. And kind of the story that.e
Unknown Speaker 23:18
I was thinking about that the other day, just in terms of how even what you just said, like I was working out by myself. And a lot of people go to affiliates CrossFit gyms because they talk about finding motivation. And you know, it’s hard to workout alone. And so it’s better to do with the community. And I’ve always been an outlier in that, that I have no issue working out on my own and finding self motivation. And really, it kind of dawned on I hadn’t connected the two and you kind of just get there too. But when I was in the military, like it was so expected and so part of my life like hey, you had to be a good shooter, you had to be in shape. And there was some expectations and if you didn’t meet those, you weren’t going to cut it and you weren’t going to basically be on the teams so for me it was a for a decade of my life that 20 to 30 period it was definitive of who I was and it just as a civilian carried over to were staying in shape even though I’m not anything like the top CrossFit guys I’m in decent shape for a 43 year old is a priority to me that that’s easy for me to find self motivation to to train and stay there.
Brady Speth 24:28
Going back for a minute if you don’t mind when you’re talking about kind of that intimidation, of going and doing some of those workouts, a lot of the Olympic lifting a lot of the you know deadlifts and clean some of that that’s not something that that wasn’t in our gym class when we were growing up, you know, so I remember feeling that exact same feeling. But now obviously, you know, 10-20 years down the road, what’s your what’s your go to what’s your favorite type of workout? What are you are you still kind of learning and always kind of growing when it comes to technique stuff like that, or where are you at when it comes to like the Olympic lifting and a lot of a lot of the different workouts that people kind of associate with CrossFit.
Dave Castro 25:07
You know, I’m really old school core CrossFit, especially for the duration I’ve been doing this. So I, I am biased towards really simple basic CrossFit workouts, I do my own programming, I create my own workouts, I typically don’t do, I’m not doing a lot of Olympic lifting right now, especially for weight, like you won’t ever find me doing a one rep max snatch. Or sometimes I’ll play the heavy cleans, I’ll go heavy on deadlifts a lot. But I’m at this stage where there’s like this level, this maintenance level that I’m really happy having, and I don’t feel like I’m trying to win the games or trying to raise my fitness to some, some extreme levels, most of my fitness, I kind of base around, I do a lot of hunting now. And I do a lot of shooting sports. So you know, in the in those two worlds, especially in hunting, you have to hike a lot and you have to have strong legs. So I tried to do things that support those efforts. And having gas is important. But um, uh, in terms of the CrossFit, I’m a core old school, traditional CrossFit style guy. My snatch isn’t that great in terms of form or weight. And like, I also don’t care, it’s not. You know.
Brady Speth 26:21
We’re over here laughing because I think we all go through that transition of, I started CrossFit when when I was in the Air Force, and then, you know, it’s a competition. You’re trying to beat the guy next to you. You’re trying to work hard. You’re trying to do all that. And then I think me and Jeremiah here laughing because I think we all go through that phase of, you know what, I don’t want to get hurt. This is a maintenance thing. This is a little hiking, I love hunting, I like getting out and doing shit. I want to enable my body to actually be able to go do what I want to do not win a competition.
Jerimiah Alexander 26:49
Absolutely. We start listening to our bodies, and listening to whatever else has been driving us into our ego past 20 years.
Brady Speth 26:56
Yeah. Yeah. So dig into you touched on the hunting side. I don’t know if you saw my eyes perk up. So I, I grew up in Montana, I grew up hunting my entire life. I eat sleep and drink hunting. So talk to me a little about what, what’s kind of you said you kind of grew up on a ranch where you’re out right now. Did you grow up hunting and then kind of what what’s your favorite animals go after, give me a little rundown on that.
Dave Castro 27:24
So I didn’t grow up hunting. And actually, you know, I was a sniper in the Seal teams. And we on a couple of trips, we did some deer hunting trips to work on the craft. But I even
Jerimiah Alexander 27:34
like air quotes in there somewhere, or just regular deer hunting
Dave Castro 27:38
Real deer this case. And
Jerimiah Alexander 27:40
In this case,
Dave Castro 27:41
I didn’t. I wasn’t a big hunter throughout that phase. After I got out in 2010 and worked full time for CrossFit. I lived in San Diego and I got really big into the competitive shooting scene, specifically US PSA. And so I shot a lot of US PSA matches. Then about three years ago, maybe two and a half years ago, I moved back up here, up here being Northern California where I grew up. And we have this 65 acre ranch. And when I got back here, one of my buddies who, who actually he owns Rogue Fitness he, he’s a friend of mine across the world, he invited me out to his ranch in Texas, and we went pig hunting, and I killed my first pig there and I had a really good time. And I was like, well wait a minute, the ranch I live on is full of pigs. So I’m like I might as well get into hunting. And so I started pig hunting about two years ago. And there was a big family of pigs here. They’re all gone. Now that’s over the course of a year and a half, I killed them all.
Brady Speth 28:42
I love it.
Dave Castro 28:44
at the beginning of this year in January, there’s a ranch about 20 minutes away from here, where they invited me out to help them with depredation. And so we’ve been going hard this year and we’ve killed a bunch of pigs. We’ve killed at least 30 and we speculate, 30 we found, we speculate there’s like 50 dead total because the wild hogs here so tough. And the other one I’m gonna show you a picture I’m most proud of this one. Hold on. See See it. So I shot this guy at 840 yards.
Brady Speth 29:17
Dave Castro 29:18
yeah, with a 300 PRC. So I also do a lot of long range competition now so the long range stuff helps me with the hunting and and also this two year phase I’ve done the deer thing turkey with bow so I’m I’m a newer hunter but I’m really enjoying it and and the pig the pig stuff has been a lot of good practice.
Brady Speth 29:43
Dave Castro 29:44
a lot of work.
Brady Speth 29:46
I’m already seeing an invite I’m gonna send your way to go get some big game hunting then we got some elk and some other fun stuff. Yeah,
Dave Castro 29:52
I’m definitely in.
Jerimiah Alexander 29:53
It’s easier to shoot elk at 800 yards than pigs.
Brady Speth 29:56
Okay, good. The I’m not kidding. So I hope you’re I hope you’re serious because Just give me a reason to not be in the office and go as these guys chuckle in the background you know the I love it, it’s kind of that’s kind of my escape. So that’s the the beauty of it is just getting out and getting back to its nature. It’s funny how I grew up in the middle of nowhere Montana and I couldn’t wait to leave. And now what 20-30 years later All I want to do is go back and it’s funny how it’s kind of cyclical how your back kind of ranch where you grew up and would do anything to go back to Montana and be on a ranch and be able to hunt and fish and, and do all that. And so it’s kind of funny how life has that very cyclical nature.
Dave Castro 30:40
Jerimiah Alexander 30:43
You know, I keep wanting to talk about long range. Yeah, I try
Brady Speth 30:46
ever since you mentioned long range, Jeremiah’s, his eyes got all bright
Jerimiah Alexander 30:50
Get excited. Well,
Brady Speth 30:51
what about buddy?
Jerimiah Alexander 30:52
So the first thing I usually ask people when they say I shoot long range, right is what what’s what’s long range? I guess that’s a good first question to ask.
Dave Castro 31:02
Yeah, so like, I mean, I’m involved in like PRS style matches. So that’s that type of long range competition. I haven’t got into the ELR stuff at all. At this point. I don’t have any interest in it. But uh, we about two years ago. So when I first got back up here have a good avid shooter, too. He said, Hey, have you ever heard of mammoth sniper challenge? And I’m like, No, I haven’t. And he’s like, Google it. So I checked it out. And he’s like, you want to do that with me? And I said, Okay, sure. Well, mammoth sniper challenge is a three day event in Georgia. It’s in. It’s three days in the field. And you rucked all these different shooting stations, and you shoot your course of fire. And over the course of the three days, you hike, like 30 miles or something. So he asked me a year before the date, and I started training for it. And we’ve all started training, and we went all in and I started going to matches, I bought all the gear, shot a lot. prep a lot. Rucked, a lot, put a lot of money and effort into training for this. We went out to the match. Within two hours of being there for a three day multi day match that traveled across the country for we were disqualified.
With this, yeah, exactly the state. And he hates it, I always tell the story, but I always tell the story. So there was a shooting stage. And on go, one shooter went to a shooting pit to the left, and the other shooter went to a shooting pit to the right, and they were set there about 50 yards apart. And from each station, there was a card of paper and shooter, the shooter on that side would say blue square, and then I’d have to shoot the blue square, and I’d read him his target, and then he’d have to shoot it. And we went back and forth. And so when we finished the second stage, day one. The RO walked over to me, and I said, Hey, I think we did pretty good. How was that? And he has I don’t worry about it. I go What do you mean, he goes while your partner dropped his pistol. When he was getting in the pit, he pulled his rucksack and it pulled his pistol out and the pistol fell on the ground. Well, in any of these shooting matches, if you drop your gun, it’s like an immediate dq. So they dq us and
Jerimiah Alexander 33:28
that’s why it’s not using a name. He just said my friend.
Dave Castro 33:32
I was so disappointed, not at him. He was hurt. He thought I was disappointed at him. I was just disappointed in the circumstance that it happened. We walked back to the car. He’s like, Hey, I’m really sorry. And I let you down Hey, don’t worry about it. It’s not like we’re getting shot at I’ve been in a worse situation right? This is just this sport.
Brady Speth 33:50
So it’s walking back to the car which is
Dave Castro 33:52
It’s totally good. It’s all good and because but the thing is reality was over a year spent of preparation for that competition. And at the point we were flying out there in my mind I was like I’m so ready for this competition to be over with because I trained so much for it and now we are done in two hours. So then that actually made me quit long range so all last year that was in January of last year. Fucking quit long range I don’t want anything to do at the end I just dove hard back into US PSA and started shooting a lot because so regardless of like which discipline I’m practicing, or shooting, I shoot every day. I have a range here and in all my shooting like I don’t go to the range, with my friends just just throw some ammo downrange like I’m shooting to, to train for a hunt or to train for a shooting competition or to prepare for something. I don’t, it is recreational but I don’t view it as I’m shooting recreationally I shoot with a purpose and intent. And but right now, but now I’m back in long range seen. And so I’m starting to compete again. And there’s a few team matches that I’m going to do with some different friends throughout this year. The team matches I really do enjoy those. But uh, so yeah, that’s that’s the extent of the long range and what I do like about the long range shoot, it has a nice, nice crossover to long range hunting. And so like that pig that I shot at 840 yards, if I wasn’t into this scene, like, dialing up in the dope, you know, all that it would have been very different.
Brady Speth 35:33
Yeah, definitely prepares you for that, which is nice. And
Jerimiah Alexander 35:36
yeah, that’s actually I got into long range shooting to some extent, Brady’s been waiting me for me to mention this person’s name the whole time. But he was he was in this he was on the seal teams and he was a sniper buds instructor, Charlie Melton, is his name and he we became friends A while back. And we’ve been I think we we broke a record four years ago, like a long range record. But I’ve been stuck on it ever since it’s all I can do. I was Brady’s doing work in his office, and I’m supposed to be helping him add up numbers. And he tells me he’s going on a hunting trip soon. And the the ammo he’s using is laying on the table. So I have my ballistic calculator out and I’m like, get this going for you. And he just looks up. He’s like, you’re a nerd. I started thinking about long range. I just wanted to give you all the info to get your dope.
Brady Speth 36:26
I was like, I’ll get it. Don’t worry about it. S
Jerimiah Alexander 36:30
it’s fun. Well, I think it doesn’t have much like crossover. Other than that long range hunting, I think pistol shooting. I always tell people like if you’re going to learn something that’s going to be useful. It’s probably how to shoot a pistol well, but I hate running. You know, so I carry a gun. It’s one thing, I don’t want to run. And secondly, long range shooting. You kind of just go lay down for a couple hours later. I’m like, I could get into this. I can play here and shoot stuff really far away. So anyway, that’s fun.
Brady Speth 37:00
The I love it. Well, we’ll start wrapping up. I don’t want to take too much your time. The I appreciate it. Thanks a lot for jumping on with this. The definitely we got to get together do some shooting in some hunting though, for sure. We got to get you on some elk or some some bighorn sheep. We just did a sheep hunt out in Texas not too long ago. We’ll we’ll have some fun with that.
Dave Castro 37:19
So do you ever do you ever do anything on horseback?
Brady Speth 37:22
Growing up I did because we had horses so I grew up on a cattle ranch. We used to hunt with horses and everything but I haven’t since
Dave Castro 37:29
I want to do it. I want to do an elk hunt where we pack in with mules and a horse and everything.
Jerimiah Alexander 37:35
Those are called four wheelers.
Brady Speth 37:36
I got a guy in Idaho that would take us in a heartbeat. So the end of the bear hunt. What’s that?
Dave Castro 37:42
Let’s stay in contact on that for sure.
Brady Speth 37:44
Yeah, I did a bear hunt up there last year with them. Not on horseback we hiked in but I would love it. He’s always trying to talk me into going on horseback and going back in hunting. So that would be that’d be a fun one.
Dave Castro 37:56
Brady Speth 37:58
The so before we let you go, I gotta I got to put you on the hot seat. We do these kind of rapid fire questions and we love kind of seeing a little little intro into everybody’s psyche. So I got five questions for you. And you got to just tell me the first thing that comes to your mind.
Dave Castro 38:13
Brady Speth 38:15
if you had one superpower, what would it be?
Dave Castro 38:18
Brady Speth 38:19
Jerimiah Alexander 38:20
A lot of those
Brady Speth 38:21
We get in visibility and we get flying. those are those are the two popular ones. Yeah, or what was the other one?
Jerimiah Alexander 38:29
teleport teleportation it’s like flying. It’s like flying without borders.
Brady Speth 38:34
fly it I could just go from this room to that room. The alright right if you could have sit down and have beers with one person past present future. who would it be?
Dave Castro 38:44
A Bruce Lee or John Steinbeck? I’m a big reader. I like John Steinbeck stuff a lot Bruce Lee I grew up with as being in martial arts and obviously that Bruce Lee’s an easy one but I really respect him and what he represents
Brady Speth 38:57
nice. The definitely have not had a Steinbeck one yet, so I’ll give you that would love it. If you had to pick one food or one type of food to eat for the rest of your life. What’s it gonna be?
Dave Castro 39:11
Steak for sure. Like, I’m a big meat meat guy. So steak
Jerimiah Alexander 39:18
Brady Speth 39:19
Um, what is the title of your biography gonna be?
Dave Castro 39:25
Oh, man. You Pissed a lot of People Off.
Brady Speth 39:32
I love that. Love it. And the very last one if I hand you a million dollars right now, what’s the first thing you’re buying?
Dave Castro 39:42
Oh, I wouldn’t buy anything. I probably invested smartly. I’m serious.
Brady Speth 39:49
No, you gotta be. You can’t You can’t be like that. You have to.
Jerimiah Alexander 39:53
Okay Dave, you didn’t like my answer, either. I told him I pay off some bills and he’s like, that’s
Dave Castro 39:59
it I have to buy something I have to buy
Brady Speth 40:02
you have to buy. So you got to spend it today.
Dave Castro 40:04
It’d be some property out west, out in the mountains somewhere. A lot of acres. Yeah.
Brady Speth 40:11
See, that’s an investment. That’s a smart investment.
Jerimiah Alexander 40:13
Yeah. It’s a win win for both.
Brady Speth 40:16
I love it, man. Thank you. Thanks for your time. We’ll let you kind of crack on with the rest of your day. We really appreciate it. Well, we’ll definitely stay in touch and have you out for some shooting or try to get some some sort of hunting because i’d love that. So
Dave Castro 40:28
yeah, that’d be great.
Brady Speth 40:29
The thanks for your service. And thanks for everything you do. And thanks for the CrossFit side of things to him.
Dave Castro 40:36
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